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	<title>Comments on: Dave&#8217;s Picks/ Week 2</title>
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		<title>By: Someone between</title>
		<link>http://www.mormonandcatholic.org/19/comment-page-1/#comment-134</link>
		<dc:creator>Someone between</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 May 2006 04:34:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am mormon and married to a catholic. I think I have felt more spirtit in a catholic &quot;rosario&quot; than in a mormon testimony meeting.  Being born mormon, I suspect that the LDS faith will turn out very well balanced people like the Catholics after about 4,000 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am mormon and married to a catholic. I think I have felt more spirtit in a catholic &#8220;rosario&#8221; than in a mormon testimony meeting.  Being born mormon, I suspect that the LDS faith will turn out very well balanced people like the Catholics after about 4,000 years.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Keller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Keller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 May 2006 18:12:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ronin,

Sorry about not posting links. You are correct about the Genesis Group. You can find some basic info about them at http://www.ldsgenesisgroup.org/ . Awhile ago I encountered an interview of their president, Darius Gray, describing some of their activities.. 

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People might think that the Genesis group just meets in one group all by itself. But in fact, my understanding is you meet in the wards of where ever you are, but once a month you come together. Let&#039;s clear up the misconception about how you meet, when you meet, etc.

We meet once a month. We are all active in our own wards, and we hold positions, many of us, in our own home wards in our stakes. Then we come together and share and celebrate who we are. We don&#039;t have to lose our culture. We don&#039;t have to lose our racial identity to be within the gospel.

We come together. It&#039;s kind of like an LDS meeting that you might find in a sacrament meeting, but you don&#039;t hear an &quot;Amen&quot; in an LDS sacrament meeting. But you can hear that at Genesis. There isn&#039;t a pause after a musical number in a LDS sacrament meeting, and there generally is in Genesis. You generally don&#039;t hear gospel or spirituals in an LDS meeting, and we do at Genesis. So, we&#039;re a blend -- we have LDS, we have our racial backgrounds, our cultural backgrounds, and they go together very well. You don&#039;t have to have one exclusion of the other. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

http://www.kued.org/productions/voices/interviews/gray.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ronin,</p>
<p>Sorry about not posting links. You are correct about the Genesis Group. You can find some basic info about them at <a href="http://www.ldsgenesisgroup.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.ldsgenesisgroup.org/</a> . Awhile ago I encountered an interview of their president, Darius Gray, describing some of their activities.. </p>
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People might think that the Genesis group just meets in one group all by itself. But in fact, my understanding is you meet in the wards of where ever you are, but once a month you come together. Let&#8217;s clear up the misconception about how you meet, when you meet, etc.</p>
<p>We meet once a month. We are all active in our own wards, and we hold positions, many of us, in our own home wards in our stakes. Then we come together and share and celebrate who we are. We don&#8217;t have to lose our culture. We don&#8217;t have to lose our racial identity to be within the gospel.</p>
<p>We come together. It&#8217;s kind of like an LDS meeting that you might find in a sacrament meeting, but you don&#8217;t hear an &#8220;Amen&#8221; in an LDS sacrament meeting. But you can hear that at Genesis. There isn&#8217;t a pause after a musical number in a LDS sacrament meeting, and there generally is in Genesis. You generally don&#8217;t hear gospel or spirituals in an LDS meeting, and we do at Genesis. So, we&#8217;re a blend &#8212; we have LDS, we have our racial backgrounds, our cultural backgrounds, and they go together very well. You don&#8217;t have to have one exclusion of the other. </p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.kued.org/productions/voices/interviews/gray.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.kued.org/productions/voices/interviews/gray.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ronin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ronin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 May 2006 14:53:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dave - the Genesis group you mention - is that the group  for our African-American brothers and sisters in the Church?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dave &#8211; the Genesis group you mention &#8211; is that the group  for our African-American brothers and sisters in the Church?</p>
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		<title>By: Ronin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ronin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 May 2006 14:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave - saw the link to FAIR inthe main page. I should have looked  before my previous message.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave &#8211; saw the link to FAIR inthe main page. I should have looked  before my previous message.</p>
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		<title>By: Ronin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ronin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 May 2006 14:45:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave - where can I get info about FAIR? Do they have a website? Becasue, when I google &quot;FAIR&quot;, I get links to a leftist media critique group. TIA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave &#8211; where can I get info about FAIR? Do they have a website? Becasue, when I google &#8220;FAIR&#8221;, I get links to a leftist media critique group. TIA</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Keller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Keller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 May 2006 07:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for explaining this to me. I don&#039;t think the LDS church was always so top down. For example, Primary, the Sunday School for little children started out as a grass roots org. In fact most of the auxillaries like Young Men&#039;s, Young Women&#039;s, Sunday School were highly independent bottom-up organizations. But it was noted that there was so much redundancy in teaching materials, which gave rise to the Correlation committee in the late 60&#039;s.

The Genesis group is a recent example of such an auxillary. It may be the closest comparison to a religious order like Opus Dei. These auxillaries all target a specific demographic. Even if one is heavily involved in an auxillary they are still expected to be be involved in general church activities.

Some LDS communities historically attempted to live the Law of Consecration more fully; I would call them a religous order, but they were short lived and most of these were church initiated. 

I would say grass roots organizations that stay independent, but unrecognized by the Church has exploded with the onset of the Internet. FAIR is a good example of this. Being active in FAIR is a definite lifestyle commitment, as any &quot;FAIR widow&quot; would attest to. 

So I think the same underlying stimuli that would lead to a Catholic order being formed is present in Mormonism. But juggling regular church activities, parachurch(like FAIR) activities, and family responsibilities can be quite the strain. So a real religious order would be hard to pull off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for explaining this to me. I don&#8217;t think the LDS church was always so top down. For example, Primary, the Sunday School for little children started out as a grass roots org. In fact most of the auxillaries like Young Men&#8217;s, Young Women&#8217;s, Sunday School were highly independent bottom-up organizations. But it was noted that there was so much redundancy in teaching materials, which gave rise to the Correlation committee in the late 60&#8242;s.</p>
<p>The Genesis group is a recent example of such an auxillary. It may be the closest comparison to a religious order like Opus Dei. These auxillaries all target a specific demographic. Even if one is heavily involved in an auxillary they are still expected to be be involved in general church activities.</p>
<p>Some LDS communities historically attempted to live the Law of Consecration more fully; I would call them a religous order, but they were short lived and most of these were church initiated. </p>
<p>I would say grass roots organizations that stay independent, but unrecognized by the Church has exploded with the onset of the Internet. FAIR is a good example of this. Being active in FAIR is a definite lifestyle commitment, as any &#8220;FAIR widow&#8221; would attest to. </p>
<p>So I think the same underlying stimuli that would lead to a Catholic order being formed is present in Mormonism. But juggling regular church activities, parachurch(like FAIR) activities, and family responsibilities can be quite the strain. So a real religious order would be hard to pull off.</p>
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